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Wilfred Silver (I0006)
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Personal Facts and Details
| Birth | Birth of Wilfred Silver 27 November 1898  44  35 Winchfield, Hampshire, England, UKLatitude: N51.305664 Longitude: W0.901297     Address: Winchfield
Note: Dec 1898 Hartley Wintney vol 2c p196
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| Census | Residence of James & Ellen Silver (& family) 1901 31 March 1901 (Age 2) Winchfield, Hampshire, England, UK Latitude: N51.282919 Longitude: W0.927405 Address: Railway Huts,
Winchfield
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| Census | Residence of James & Ellen Silver (& family) 1911 2 April 1911 (Age 12) Feltham, Middlesex, England, UK Latitude: N51.448448 Longitude: W0.404762 Address: 65 Queens Road
Feltham Note: RG14PN6732 RG78PN335 RD126 SD1 ED8 SN40 |
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| Military Service | Start of military service of Wilfred Silver 5 August 1915 (Age 16) Hounslow, Middlesex, England, UK Note: Please click on his 'Notes' & 'Media' tabs above.
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| Military Service | Demob 22 October 1922 (Age 23) Bareilly, India Latitude: N28.353230 Longitude: E79.409449 Note: And starts his 5 years with the military reserve.
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| Marriage | Civil Marriage 11 September 1924 (Age 25) Winifred May Meads - Staines, Middlesex, England, UK Address: Register Office,
Staines Witness: Alice Silver (I0007) (Age 32) - [Relationship Chart ] - [Relationship Chart]Witness: Herbert Frank Emms (I0010) (Age 33) - [Relationship Chart ] - [Relationship Chart]Source: FreeBMD online search - matching marriage registration entries
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| Residence | 1930 (Age 31) Ashford, Middlesex, England, UK Address: Broad Leas
Ashford Note: Wilfred was buying this property with his father-in-law. Although only a railway worker, in the 1930's this was taken to be a 'steady' job (a job for life) and as such a regular income. This also applied to postmen and policemen. |
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| Residence | 1940 (Age 41) Ashford, Middlesex, England, UK Latitude: N51.442925 Longitude: W0.473175 Address: 558, London Road
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| Death | Death of Wilfred Silver 6 September 1962 (Age 63) Ashford, Middlesex, England, UK Latitude: N51.444278 Longitude: W0.471944 Address: 558, London Road
Ashford Informant: Winifred May Meads (I0056) (Age 64) - [Relationship Chart]
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| Cremation | Cremation of Wilfred Silver 11 September 1962 (5 days after death) Hanworth, Middlesex, England, UK Latitude: N51.447003 Longitude: W0.271111 Address: South West Middlesex Crematorium,
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| Last Change | 20 May 2010 - 17:57:32 - by: tjsilver |
Notes
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Known to Jackie and I as 'Grandad Pop' |
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Wilfred lied about his age in order to sign-up at the age of 16 - he said his birthday was 27 Nov 1896 whereas it was actually 27 Nov 1898. A part of the evidence for this, is that he was 5'4" tall on enlistment and 5'9" tall on discharge. Rather than enlisting for 'Duration of War, he signed-up for '7 + 5' (7 years with the Colours and 5 years in the Reserve - they must have seen him coming) with the Royal Fusiliers, in Sunbury on 05 Aug 1815. Later that day he was in Hounslow barracks for his 'attestment' with regimental no. 16822. Two days later he was posted to the newly created Machine Gun Training Centre in Grantham. On 01 Jan 1916 Wilfred was transferred to 2/Bn Machine Gun Corps and a change to his regimental no. - now 29678. Later that year, on 05 Jul 1916, 2/Bn embarked Devonport for Salonika as part of the BSF (British Salonika Force) where they joined 22nd Division on 14 Jul 1916. However, Wilfred didn't embark for Salonika until 26 Oct 1916, where he joined 66th Machine Gun Company 'in the field' on 12 Nov 1916 (I suppose he was a replacement). There he was to remain for just over two years. During this time, Wilfred contracted Malaria (apparently it was rife along with dysentry). He was admitted into hospital 04 Sep 1917 and didn't rejoin his company until 30 Mar 1918. It is likely that Wilfred took part in the 'Battles of Doiran' (24-25 Apr & 8-9 May 1917). 27 Jan 1919, 66 Coy embark Salonika bound for England and on 15 Feb 1919, Wilfred is given 1 months leave (his first 'home' leave since his 'sign-up' 3 1/2 years earlier!). 01 Apr 1919, 66 Coy is assigned to 8/Bn and on 12 May 1919, 8/Bn embarks Newcastle-on-Tyne bound for Archangel as part of the Russian Relief Force - the short-lived Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War. A mere 4 months later, on 27 Oct 1919, he's heading back to the UK in the 'final evacuation'. A few months later on 27 Feb 1920, 8/Bn is now embarking Devonmouth bound for Bombay, where they arrive 24 Mar 1920. Six months (to the day) later, 27 Aug 1920, 8/Bn embarks Bombay for Basra (re-inforcements for the British Mandate of Mesopotamia) whence they arrive 02 Sep 1920. 8/Bn stays in Iraq until end of 1921. It's during this time in Iraq that Wilfred was transfered to the emerging Tank Corps, where he was assigned to 6th Armoured Car Coy in Baghdad on 14 Mar 1921. His regimental no. is now 7808691. On 24 Dec 1921, 8/Bn (certainly 6th AC Coy) embarked Basrah for Bombay. They were deployed to Barielly, where he stayed until the 'expiration of his period of Army Service', on 02 Oct 1922. On 24 Nov 1922, he was transferred to 'Sec "B" Army Reserve to serve his '5'. Wilfred must have enjoyed his time in the army as he served a further 4 years in the reserve (now the Royal Tank Corps), and was finally 'DISCHARGED ON TERMINATION of ENGAGEMENT', 04 Aug 1931. Whilst I'm sure that he did enjoy the army, it's interesting to note that when he left Grantham in 1916, his Qualification was 1st Class (Vickers) - so he was a gunner. However, in India, he took his 'driving test' - certified Driver IC IIIrd Class. Had he had enough of killing, or was he trying to create opportunties for his future? He never was a chauffeur, he worked on the railway. Anyway, I like to think that he didn't like killing people. |
| Birth | Dec 1898 Hartley Wintney vol 2c p196 |
| Death of a grand-parent | Mar 1900 Silver; Jane; 66; Hartley W. vol 2c p157 |
| Death of a grand-parent | Sep 1908 Silver, Oliver; 76; Hartley W. vol 2c p102 |
| Census | RG14PN6732 RG78PN335 RD126 SD1 ED8 SN40 |
| Death of a grand-parent | Mar 1914 Baldwin, Sophia, 85; Hartley W. vol 2c p273 |
| Death of a grand-parent | Dec 1914 Baldwin, James; 86; Kingston vol 2a p573 |
| Military Service | Please click on his 'Notes' & 'Media' tabs above. |
| Death of mother | Sep 1921 Silver, Ellen S; 55; Staines vol 3a p2 |
| Military Service | And starts his 5 years with the military reserve. |
| Death of father | Mar 1925 Staines vol 3a p13 |
| Residence | Wilfred was buying this property with his father-in-law. Although only a railway worker, in the 1930's this was taken to be a 'steady' job (a job for life) and as such a regular income. This also applied to postmen and policemen. |
Sources
| Death of a grand-parent | Death Certificate - Copy |
| Death of a grand-parent | Death Certificate - Copy |
| Death of mother | Death Certificate - Copy Date of entry in original source: 14 July 1921 |
| Marriage | FreeBMD online search - matching marriage registration entries |
| Marriage | FreeBMD online search - matching marriage registration entries |
| Marriage | FreeBMD online search - matching marriage registration entries |
Media
 Multimedia Object |  Wilf at work c.1960 (M612)
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Multimedia Object |  Wilfred Silver Character Certificate (M589)
Type: Certificate |
Multimedia Object |  Chart showing the history of the Royal Tank Regiment (M543)
Type: Document |
Multimedia Object |  Wilfred fishing - what else! (M480)
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Multimedia Object |  Wilfred and Winifred on holiday c.? (M393)
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Multimedia Object |  Wilfred - war is over after 3 years service overseas (M401)
Type: Photo  Note: Wilf is rear left.The card says 1914-1919 - that is because, while hostilities ceased (the armistice) 11 Nov 1918, the Treaty of Versailles was not signed until 28 June 1919. |
Multimedia Object |  Discharge/reference letter continued (M283)
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Multimedia Object |  Discharge/reference letter 1 (M282)
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Multimedia Object |  Transcript of discharge reference (M285)
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Multimedia Object |  Wilfred Silver medal card (M358)
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Multimedia Object |  RG13/1106/63 p11 Winchfield 2 of 2 (M428)
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Multimedia Object |  Wilfred Silver death certificate (M386)
Type: Certificate |
Multimedia Object |  Wilfred Silver birth certificate (M347)
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Multimedia Object |  Wilfred Silver & Winifred Meads marriage certificate (M420)Winifred May Meads |
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Family with Parents - [View Family (F0018)] |
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9 years Mother |
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| Marriage: 26 January 1884 -- Odiham, Hampshire, England, UK | ||
 4 months#1 Sister |
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4 years #2 Brother |
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2 years #3 Sister |
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12 months #4 Brother |
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14 months #5 Sister |
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15 months #8  |
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Family with Winifred May Meads - [View Family (F0014)] |
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-11 months Wife |
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| Marriage: 11 September 1924 -- Staines, Middlesex, England, UK | |
6 months #1 Son |
