Wilfred “Pop” SilverAge: 63 years1898–1962
- Name
- Wilfred “Pop” Silver
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- birth name
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- Wilfred
- Nickname
- Pop
- Surname
- Silver
![]() | November 27, 1898 44 35 Note: Hartley W. vol 2c p196; Actual date from birth certificate and confirmed by 1939 register
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![]() | Jane Hooker January 11, 1900 (Age 13 months) Note: Age: 66; Hartley W. vol 2c p157; Got certificate
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![]() | March 31, 1901 (Age 2 years) Address: Railway Huts Note: Age: 2; Relation to Head of House: Son
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![]() | Lily Silver August 24, 1901 (Age 2 years) Note: Hartley W. vol 2c p211; Actual date from death entry ('39 register gives 24 Aug 1902 but birth registered 4th quarter '01)
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![]() | Oliver Silver August 22, 1908 (Age 9 years) Note: Age: 76; Hartley W vol 2c p102; Got certificate
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![]() | April 2, 1911 (Age 12 years) Address: 65 Queen's Road Note: Age: 12; Relation to Head of House: Son
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![]() | Sophia Silver March 11, 1914 (Age 15 years) Note: Age: 85; Hartley W. vol 2c p273; Got certificate - 2 cerebral hemorrhages and 14 days exhaustion
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![]() | James Baldwin October 12, 1914 (Age 15 years) Address: Oakenshaw Lodge, Langley Road Note: Kingston vol 2a p573; Got certificate
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![]() | James Baldwin October 15, 1914 (Age 15 years) Note: All Saints
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![]() | Percy Silver December 1914 (Age 16 years) Note: Age: 17; Whitechapel vol 1c p318
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![]() | August 5, 1915 (Age 16 years) Note: Attested in Sunbury and then Hounslow later that day for 'medical'.
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![]() | January 1, 1916 (Age 17 years) Note: Transfered to Machine Gun Corps
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![]() | Posting November 12, 1916 (Age 17 years)Note: Arrives in Salonika and joins 66th Machine Gun Company (part of the BSF [British Salonika Force]).
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![]() | September 4, 1917 (Age 18 years) Note: Admitted to hospital suffering from malaria. Rejoins company 30 Mar 1918
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![]() | February 15, 1919 (Age 20 years) Note: 66 Coy is back in England and Wilf is given 1 months leave.
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![]() | Posting May 12, 1919 (Age 20 years)Note: 66 Coy (now assigned to 8/Bn) embark for Archangel as part of the Russian Relief Force.
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![]() | Posting February 27, 1920 (Age 21 years)Note: 8/Bn embark for Bombay.
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![]() | Posting August 27, 1920 (Age 21 years)Note: 8/Bn embarks for Basra (re-inforcements for the British Mandate of Mespotamia).
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![]() | Posting March 14, 1921 (Age 22 years)Note: Assigned to 6th Armoured Car Company (later to become the Tank Corps).
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![]() | Ellen Sophia Baldwin July 14, 1921 (Age 22 years) Address: 65 Queen's Road Note: Age: 55; Staines vol 3a p2; Got certificate
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![]() | Posting December 24, 1921 (Age 23 years)Note: 8/Bn embark for Bombay.
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![]() | Demobilisation October 2, 1922 (Age 23 years)Note: Expiration of his period of Army Service.
Note: (Click on the Media tab for his 'Character reference' from his C.O.)
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![]() | Winifred May Meads — View this family September 11, 1924 (Age 25 years) Address: The Register Office |
![]() #1 | James Wilfred Silver March 11, 1925 (Age 26 years) Address: 'Apperton', Staines Road Note: Staines vol 3a p33; got certificate
James Wilfred Silver birth certificate (cropped) Note: The birth address is written Apperton, Staines Road, Stanwell RD - the 'RD' stands for 'Rural District'; Staines Road was, as far as the locals considered, in East Bedfont.
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![]() | James Thomas Silver March 22, 1925 (Age 26 years) Address: 65 Queen's Road Note: Age: 71; Staines vol 3a p13; Got certificate; Cerebral heamorrhage
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![]() | James Wilfred Silver August 29, 1926 (Age 27 years) Note: St Mary the Virgin
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![]() | 1935 (Age 36 years) Address: 39 Broad Leys Estate Note: (Living with in-laws)
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![]() | 1937 (Age 38 years) Address: 558 London Road Note: (Living with in-laws)
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![]() | September 29, 1939 (Age 40 years) Address: 558 London Road Note: Length Man Permanet Way; Marital Status: Married
Note: (Living with in-laws)
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![]() | Arthur Silver March 1959 (Age 60 years) Note: Age: 68; Aldershot vol 6b p32
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![]() | James Silver August 24, 1960 (Age 61 years) |
![]() | September 6, 1962 (Age 63 years) Address: Ashford Hospital Note: Age: 63; Middlesex S vol 5f p59; Got certificate
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![]() | South West Middlesex Crematorium September 11, 1962 (5 days after death)Note: Personal knowledge
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![]() | October 12, 1962 (36 days after death) Note: SILVER Wilfred of 558 London Road Ashford Middlesex died 6 September 1962 at Ashford Hospital Stanwell Middlesex Administration London 12 October to Winifred May Silver widow. Effects £328 13s. 2d.
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Family with parents |
father |
Birth: March 5, 1854 24 21 — Odiham, Hampshire, England Death: March 22, 1925 — Feltham, Middlesex, England |
mother |
Birth: August 8, 1863 35 36 — Odiham, Hampshire, England Death: July 14, 1921 — Feltham, Middlesex, England |
Marriage: January 26, 1884 — Odiham, Hampshire, England |
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4 months elder sister |
Ellen “Nellie” Silver Birth: May 13, 1884 30 20 — Winchfield, Hampshire, England Death: March 1967 — Winchester, Hampshire, England |
2 years elder brother |
Frank Silver Birth: June 1886 32 22 — Hartley Wintney, Hampshire, England Death: December 1886 — Hartley Wintney, Hampshire, England |
18 months elder brother |
James Silver Birth: December 8, 1887 33 24 — Winchfield, Hampshire, England Death: August 24, 1960 — Scarborough, Toronto, Ontario, Canada |
22 months elder sister |
Emily Silver Birth: October 8, 1889 35 26 — Winchfield, Hampshire, England Death: March 1966 — Hillingdon, Middlesex, England |
13 months elder brother |
Arthur Silver Birth: November 4, 1890 36 27 — Winchfield, Hampshire, England Death: March 1959 — Aldershot, Hampshire, England |
2 years elder sister |
Birth: January 20, 1893 38 29 — Potbridge, Hampshire, England Death: July 24, 1982 — Winchester, Hampshire, England |
3 years elder brother |
Alfred Silver Birth: July 19, 1895 41 31 — Winchfield, Hampshire, England Death: June 1973 — Leeds, Yorkshire, England |
2 years elder brother |
Percy Silver Birth: July 1897 43 33 — Winchfield, Hampshire, England Death: December 1914 — Whitechapel, London, England |
17 months himself |
Birth: November 27, 1898 44 35 — Winchfield, Hampshire, England Death: September 6, 1962 — Stanwell, Middlesex, England |
3 years younger sister |
Lily Silver Birth: August 24, 1901 47 38 — Winchfield, Hampshire, England Death: December 1983 — Winchester, Hampshire, England |
Family with Winifred May Meads |
himself |
Birth: November 27, 1898 44 35 — Winchfield, Hampshire, England Death: September 6, 1962 — Stanwell, Middlesex, England |
wife |
Birth: December 14, 1897 24 30 — Bray, Berkshire, England Death: January 7, 1981 — Stanwell, Middlesex, England |
Marriage: September 11, 1924 — Staines, Middlesex, England |
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6 months son |
Birth: March 11, 1925 26 27 — Stanwell, Middlesex, England Death: December 15, 2008 — Chertsey, Surrey, England |
Birth | Hartley W. vol 2c p196; Actual date from birth certificate and confirmed by 1939 register |
Census | Age: 2; Relation to Head of House: Son |
Census | Age: 12; Relation to Head of House: Son |
Military service | Attested in Sunbury and then Hounslow later that day for 'medical'. |
Military service | Transfered to Machine Gun Corps |
Military service | Arrives in Salonika and joins 66th Machine Gun Company (part of the BSF [British Salonika Force]). |
Military service | Admitted to hospital suffering from malaria. Rejoins company 30 Mar 1918 |
Military service | 66 Coy is back in England and Wilf is given 1 months leave. |
Military service | 66 Coy (now assigned to 8/Bn) embark for Archangel as part of the Russian Relief Force. |
Military service | 8/Bn embark for Bombay. |
Military service | 8/Bn embarks for Basra (re-inforcements for the British Mandate of Mespotamia). |
Military service | Assigned to 6th Armoured Car Company (later to become the Tank Corps). |
Military service | 8/Bn embark for Bombay. |
Military service | Expiration of his period of Army Service. |
Military service | (Click on the Media tab for his 'Character reference' from his C.O.) |
Residence | (Living with in-laws) |
Residence | (Living with in-laws) |
Census | Length Man Permanet Way; Marital Status: Married |
Census | (Living with in-laws) |
Death | Age: 63; Middlesex S vol 5f p59; Got certificate |
Cremation | Personal knowledge |
Probate | SILVER Wilfred of 558 London Road Ashford Middlesex died 6 September 1962 at Ashford Hospital Stanwell Middlesex Administration London 12 October to Winifred May Silver widow. Effects £328 13s. 2d. |
Note | No idea where the 'Pop' came from but that's what the [my] family called him and he was 'granddad Pop' to my sister and I. (I'm now 'Pop' to two of my grandsons). |
Note | In 1815, Wilfred lied about his age in order to sign-up at the age of 16 - he said his birthday was 27 Nov 1896 whereas it was actually 27 Nov 1898. A part of the evidence for this, is that he was 5'4" tall on enlistment and 5'9" tall on discharge. Rather than enlisting for 'Duration of War' he signed-up for '7 + 5' (7 years with the Colours and 5 years in the Reserve - they must have seen him coming) with the Royal Fusiliers. He was Attested in Sunbury on 05 Aug 1815. Later that day he was in Hounslow barracks for his 'medical' with regimental no. 16822. Two days later he was posted to the Royal Fusiliers. On 01 Jan 1916 Wilfred was transferred to the Machine Gun Training Centre in Grantham and then to 2/Bn Machine Gun Corps and a change to his regimental no. - now 29678. Later that year, on 05 Jul 191 6, 2/Bn embarked Devonport for Salonika as part of the BSF (British Salonika Force) where they joined 22nd Division on 14 Jul 1916. However, Wilfred didn't embark for Salonika until 26 Oct 1916, where he joined 66th Machine Gun Company 'in the field' on 12 Nov 1916 (I suppose he was a replacement). There he was to remain for just over two years. During this time, Wilfred contracted Malaria (apparently it was rife along with dysentery). He was admitted into hospital 04 Sep 1917 and didn't rejoin his company until 30 Mar 1918. It is likely that Wilfred took part in the 'Battles of Doiran' (24-25 Apr & 8-9 May 1917). 27 Jan 1919, 66 Coy embark Salonika bound for England and on 15 Feb 1919, Wilfred is given 1 months leave (his first 'home' leave since his 'sign-up' 3 1/2 years earlier!). 01 Apr 1919, 66 Coy is assigned to 8/Bn and on 12 May 1919, 8/Bn embarks Newcastle-on-Tyne bound for Archangel as part of the Russian Relief Force - the short-lived Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War. A mere 4 months later, on 27 Oct1919, he's heading back to the UK in the 'final evacuation'. A few months later on 27 Feb 1920, 8/Bn is now embarking Devonport bound for Bombay, where they arrive 24 Mar 1920. Six months (to the day) later, 27 Aug 1920, 8/Bn embarks Bombay for Basra (reinforcements for the British Mandate of Mesopotamia) whence they arrive 02 Sep 1920. 8/Bn stays in Iraq until end of 1921. It's during this time in Iraq that Wilfred was transferred to the emerging Tank Corps, where he was assigned to 6th Armoured Car Coy in Baghdad on 14 Mar 1921. His regimental no. is now 7808691. On 24 Dec 1921, 8/Bn (certainly 6th AC Coy) embarked Basrah for Bombay. They were deployed to Bareilly, where he stayed until the 'expiration of his period of Army Service', on 02 Oct 1922. On 24 Nov 1922, he was transferred to 'Sec "B" Army Reserve to serve his '5'. Wilfred must have enjoyed his time in the army as he served a further 4 years in the reserve (now the Royal Tank Corps), and was finally 'DISCHARGED ON TERMINATION of ENGAGEMENT', 04 Aug 1931. Whilst I'm sure that he did enjoy the army, it's interesting to note that when he left Grantham in 1916, his qualification was 1st Class (Vickers) - so he was a gunner. However, in India, he took his 'driving test' - certified Driver IC IIIrd Class. Had he had enough of killing, or was he trying to create opportunities for his future? He never was a chauffeur, he worked on the railway. Anyway, I like to think that he didn't like killing people. |
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